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Joe Hemstock's avatar

The Bible is a book of 2 covenants not 7 dispensations

Jesus tore down the middle wall of partition making of Twain one new man…. We are the third and final Temple temple… the second Adam was made a quickening spirit 1Cor 16 hence; Paul says of the believer, Christ in us, the hope of glory. Has he quickened…: and caused to sit together with him in heavenly places.

Simply does not have two people groups : he has he never will.

Follow the three loaves that Sarah made for the Lord , consider her offspring as the seed

Look at the parable of the three measures of meal . Then go to where Saul is searching for the donkeys, and you will see he is met by a man carrying three loaves of bread. he is given to the house of Israel and the House of Judah… the third one came down from heaven in Bethlehem’s Manger

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Jessica Powell's avatar

I am only part-way through, but wanted quickly to interject with three points:

(1). Please. Slow. Down! It has become a terrible modern habit to speak at 351.75 (recurring) miles an hour, and we ladies are particularly naughty about this! It helps nobody, and does a grave disservice to one’s listener, upon whom the burden of untangling indistinct enunciation (those lazily omitted consonants!) and editing garbled grammar should by no means rest.

(2). Please seriously consider using the King James Bible as your primary reference (and one without any whiff of added Scofield / Dispensationalist notes or headings), not only for consistency, but because it is still - by far (and I am including the so-called “New King James Version” amongst the untrustworthy versions this sweeping blanket plea) ! - the soundest, most faithful, most trustworthy, and (for good reason) most memorable English version that we have. It has also stood the rest of time for no less than 413 years since it was first published as the Authorized Version (AV) in 1611.

Please understand, that it is not merely a matter of accuracy and quality of translation, nor of the fact that James 1st of England had called together for the work a body over over 50 “men of the cloth”, from high church to low church, all of whom were outstanding scholars possessing a level of education and linguistic expertise in both modern European and ancient languages (as, NB, did James himself), that you simply will not find anywhere today.

These men still had in their nostrils the smell of the fires in which so many English martyrs had been burned alive for possessing or distributing Bibles in English, following the rescue of the large body of 500+ agreeing manuscripts from the Fall of Constantinople in 1543, whose translation into the vernacular, together with the invention of the printing press, had sparked the Reformation.

Our Darwinian-distorted historical lenses have caused us to view that body of venerable gentlemen, supervised but not interfered with in their labours by a king desperate for a Bible that would be an instrument of peace, an Irenicon, between the warring peoples of his land, as somehow a tad “primitive”, old-fashioned, lacking [*ahem!*] proper scientific understanding.

We could not be more wrong in that assumption.

Remember, also, that those scholars jointly chose to retain at least 80% of William Tyndale’s outstanding version - Tyndale who had been betrayed, strangled, and burned at the stake in what is now Belgium, with the words, “Lord, open the king of England’s eyes” on his lips.

That king was Henry VIII, and within a few short years he had ordered a Bible to be placed in every village church in England.

The descriptions of people who had hitherto only heard the Roman Catholic Mass and minute portions of the (to them and even to most Catholic priests) unintelligible Latin Vulgate, weeping with joy and relief at HEARING AND UNDERSTANDING the Word of God for the first time in their OWN tongue, are extremely moving.

We forget at our peril what we owe to our English Reformers, and would do well to do a deep dive into the history of the (highly dubious!) provenance of the small number of untrustworthy manuscripts which have from the later 19th-Century, beginning with Hort’s and Westcott’s Revised Standard Version, been used insidiously as instruments of Jesuit - Crypto-Judaising infiltration, to corrupt and destroy the principal means of Salvation and bring the Counter-Reformation to its ignominious apotheosis.

For useful material on the subject, I highly recommend the resources available from the Trinitarian Bible Society.

(3). Remember, also, as concerning the Law, that the Pharisees had added a vast body of additional laws of their own, to the Mosaic Law, all of them derived, not from God’s Word, but from pagan customs.

That body of additional manmade laws were what Jesus condemned as “the traditions of men, by which ye have made my Father’s Word of none effect”.

In other words, their many additions to the Mosaic Law had so emasculated the life-giving power from God’s true Word, that it had become an instrument of death.

It was those additions which had given the Pharisees a stranglehold over the people, consolidating the spiritual power of the Babylonian-derived religious practices which they falsely authenticated by hypocritically feigned reverence for Moses and the prophets; and which had allowed them to build the banking empire, centred upon the system of Temple sacrifice, that was to be resurrected following the destruction of Jerusalem under the Roman Prince Titus in A.D. 70, and reinstated upon the seat of the ancient Roman goddess of death, Vatica, on the Vatican hill (Rev 17: 9).

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William Voelz's avatar

Time. Times and half a time. Weeks are 7 days duration. A thousand years is as a day. 7 is the Divine perfection of that which is in view. The entire Bible is structured on a septenary basis. So the Book of Rev does not have mention a seven year tribulation. It is revealed many ways. Additionally, rapture not mentioned is immiterial. The catching up of the saints is however very material. The separation at the Judgment Seat involves the called out among the called. The overcomers versus those who were overcome in this life. Those who bore fruit vs those who were barren. Those who make up the corporate Bride and who did not forfeit their inheritance as Esau did will join Christ as His companion in ruling from His throne during the 7th day. The Bride is made up of those who pressed on into the mark of the prize of the high calling of God in Christ. The salvation of the soul.

The Day of the Lord. Which follows Man’s Day. The 7 years of tribulation are the unfulfilled 7 years of the previous dispensation. 7 years remain to be fulfilled as pertain to Daniel’s prophecy. This is not difficult. If one does not ask the right questions the answers you get are meaningless.

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Jessica Powell's avatar

How about asking Daniel himself exactly how long each ‘week’ of his prophecy was explained to be, by actually reading his own words in his own book, instead of quoting third-hand Dispensationalist interpretations?

Being Berean does not require a degree in rocket science; but it does at the very least require integrity.

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Joe Hemstock's avatar

Jesus said to forgive 70 x 7 490

It was a prophecy of 490 years and accurate to the day. Both Daniels prophecies, The olivet discourse and the revelation of Jesus Christ took place in the first century by 70 AD

Jesus said it would happen in that generation Mt 24:34 and said at the end of John’s letter; Behold I come quickly… John said it must shortly come to pass and the time was at hand in writing to the seven literal churches he had oversite of

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Jessica Powell's avatar

🎯😇🎯😇🎯😇🎯😇🎯😇🎯😇🎯😇 [x 70!]

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William's avatar

Thank you for sharing. I find flaws in your reasoning though. There is no 7 years mentioned in the Revelation and most the prophecies of Daniel are already fulfilled. There is no gap theory. The reformers had a better understanding of eschatology than most who preach today. It would seem this apostasy of eschatology and Zionism goes back to the time the head that seemed to suffer a mortal head wound yet lived occurred around 1798. I find it interesting the origins of Zionism seemed to start with a Jesuit. "Manuel de Lacunza y Díaz, S.J. (July 19, 1731 – c. June 18, 1801) was a Jesuit priest who used the pseudonym Juan Josafat Ben-Ezra in his main work on the interpretation of the prophecies of the Bible, which was entitled The Coming of the Messiah in Majesty and Glory."

I also find it interesting that the Beast from the Earth which later reformers saw as the US and that Jesuits has influence in the signing of the Declaration of Independence and our flag is a variation of the Jesuit corporation flag of the East India Trading Company. Seems as the Jesuits were being ran out of Europe they needed a new home to operate from. I also find it interesting two former Presidents Jefferson and Adams who were outspoken regarding the Jesuits died on the same day July 4th. Even Lincoln before he died was outspoken of the problem's Rome and Jesuits were causing that he attributed to causing the Civil War. The Harlot and her daughters still causing problems. As for the Great City Mystery Babylon it is quite clear in the Revelation it is Jerusalem. To the Hebrew of Apostle John's time there was only one Great City. It does seem to display the spirit of Sodom and Egypt. Its controlling government is steeped in Babylonian practices. I am just happy the end of this age is rapidly approaching and Yah is going to sort this mess out soon.

Maranatha!

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Joe Hemstock's avatar

Not one iota of Bible for your statements

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William Voelz's avatar

Thanks for your clear vote of confidence. Sad your expertise does not include personal knowledge of the Author of that Bible.

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Joe Hemstock's avatar

Who gave you permission to slide Daniels 70th week forward 2025 years and counting? The Bible is a book of 2 covenants not 7 dispensations. Did you miss to connection of the revelation of Jesus Christ and the olivet discourse? Have you not read Mt 24:34 where Jesus said All these things will be fulfilled in that generation not ours?

In fact he said some of them standing there would live to see it

Did you miss John’s opening salutation where he plainly says to seven existing churches “the things which must SHORTLY COME TO PASS…. For the TIME IS AT HAND??? Or the closing of his letter when Jesus himself says “Behold I come QUICKLY” ….

The first rule of Bible interpretation is Context. The second rule of Bible interpretation is Context, and the third rule of Bible interpretation is….Context.

The Bible is written for us not to us… now go learn what that means. Desiring to be a teacher you have need that one teach you.

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William Voelz's avatar

Oh. That’s a challenge. Permission? I will not engage in a scripture pissing contest with a self important self described Bible student. But I will respond.

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Joe Hemstock's avatar

No need, you have sufficiently shown your fruitless tree and evil heart… Repent before it it too late, clocks ticking

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William Voelz's avatar

Oh my. He gets one little poke and already he’s offended. Wanted to see how a veteran of the Christian trenches would handle criticism.

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William's avatar

I also find it interesting we are over 7 years past the fulfillment of the Revelation 12 verses 1 and 2 prophecy that occurred September 23, 2017. The Great Red Dragon passing over comes next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSqPiR2EK2s

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The events of Rev. ch 4 are as yet unfulfilled. The Title Deed to the Earth has not passed from Him Who sits on the throne to the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. As well the crowns of the Elders remain in their possession. Those Overcomers who’s right it is to rule with Christ have yet to sit in Judgment at the Bar of Christ. You are way ahead of yourself. The first horse has yet to ride. The times and events described in the scope of Revelation where the intensity of raw destruction occurs 7 times hotter than ever seen on earth rules out all statements that would seem to place 2025 anywhere near that level. The catching up is seen in Rev Ch 1 and many other places. That should be uppermost in a redeemed man’s mind. Not the events of Revelation. The Judgment Seat will separate the faithful from the unfaithful. The fruit bearing from the barren. The Overcomers from those who are overcome. Only overcomers make up the Bride. The Bride is removed from the body. As was Eve removed from Adam’s body. Type /Antitype. Keep it simple.

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It would seem we are two seals in and the third is at the door. Whether this age ends when Stephen was stoned or when Christ was crucified is debatable. It is possible when Christ read the Isaiah scroll he was proclaiming a Jubilee year which would place the end of that year as the end of that great age. As for the Harpazo there is no indication it occurs until the 7th Trumpet before the wrath of Yah aka bowl Judgements. This is when the the mystery of Yah is no more. If you haven't prepared for the coming 3rd seal and 6th seal you are likely not going to make it to the 7th Trumpet. When researching the 7 churches in the stream of time we are in the last church age the Church of Laodicea. Notice how the wording changes from the last two churches. The last church age he says I am at the door. As for all those references I hear people state regarding a pretribulation rapture they are misled. You are going to be here or die before any Harpazo if you had not prepared. As for the first seal that is believed to be the Holy Spirit and people returning to the faith. No where in any prophecy does white ever represent anything other than righteousness.

Message to the Church in Philadelphia Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

The order of the churches given is in accordance to the mail route in that time. In 3:11 he says O come quickly.

Our Church age is Laodicea

Message to the Church in Laodicea Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Here he says Behold I am at the door. This is where we are in the stream of time.

If you had searched the Welsh History you would find even more prophecies not in the Gospel. If you use discernment you can determine what is accurate.

The Welsh history indicates many of the northern Tribes became known as the Welsh.

BRT 3:54 ... Tell me, good Master, when shall the

end be?

BRT:3:55 Jesus answered. "There will be an end to the beginning, and

men will know this by the spirit of the times. Men will no longer be as

brothers; nor will they be manly. Women will be as men and men as women.

Adultery will not be condemned, nor will fornication; therefore, these will

flourish. Men will not honour their homelands, and there will be no

discrimination among them, nor will they maintain the purity of their races.

Fathers will not be honoured, nor mothers respected, and children will be

raised to be wayward. Perversions will be encouraged, and criminals will

mock the law. There will be incest and rape and it will be unsafe to walk

abroad. Floods, famines, droughts and earthquakes will cause death and

destruction: Strange sicknesses will smite the people, and there will be a

denial of God. Babes will be slain in the womb."

BRT:3:56 "Men will lust after the wives of other men, and marriage shall

lose its meaning. Women will go to the marriage table unchaste and with

deceit in their hearts. Their husbands, creatures of pity, will hear the mocking

voices of laughing men. Priests will defile their altars with their impurity, and

the rulers will be held in little repute. It is not God who marks the end days,

but men who lives as though setting a pitfall for himself."

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William Voelz's avatar

Hardly. The present dispensation ends when Man’s Day ends. At the begining of the Tribulation. God has ceased dealing with Israel when Paul in Rome, end of Acts told the visiting Pharisees God was removing the Kingdom of the Heavens from them and offering it to the one new man in Christ. The church. God will judge the Church first. Then Israel then the Gentiles. No events of the Tribulation can occur until that which is holding back inequity is take out of the way. That would the the Bride. The Title Deed to the Earth must change hands first. That has not occurred. That’s Ch 4. Other events need to play out before ANY horses ride. When they do you do not want to be here. The Great Trib has two purposes. 1. Bring Israel to the place of repentance for 3000 years of stiffnecked disobedience. And to break Gentile world power and that includes all Gentile churches.

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Thank you for sharing. Many truths the ladies have come to understand. 7000 years were determined for the earth from the beginning. We are at the end of the 3rd Great age. Each great age is 2000 years. The first great age ended around the time Noah died closing out the golden age when humans lived to almost 1000 years. The second great age ended around the time Yeshua was crucified. So when does this age end. The reason this is important is that before this age ends the Great Red Dragon of Revelation a celestial object present at Noah’s flood and the Exodus from Egypt passes over and destroys the Nations. The Great Red Dragon has been called by many names through out antiquity. Dragon, Doomdragon, Doomshape, Destroyer (Abaddon=Hebrew, Apollyon=Greek), Frightener and in more recent times Nemesis, Planet X, Nibiru and Second Sun. Here is a short scroll regarding the Destroyer.

CHAPTER THREE. THE DESTROYER - PART 1 FROM THE GREAT SCROLL

Men forget the days of the Destroyer. Only the wise know where it went and that it will return in its appointed hour. It raged across the Heavens in the days of wrath, and this was its likeness: It was as a billowing cloud of smoke enwrapped in a ruddy glow, not distinguishable in joint or limb. Its mouth was an abyss from which came flame, smoke and hot cinders.

When ages pass, certain laws operate upon the stars in the Heavens. Their ways change, there is movement and restlessness, they are no longer constant and a great light appears redly in the skies. When blood drops upon the Earth, the Destroyer will appear and mountains will open up and belch forth fire and ashes. Trees will be destroyed and all living things engulfed. Waters will be swallowed up by the land and seas will boil. The Heavens will burn brightly and redly, there will be a copper hue over the face of the land, followed by a day of darkness. A new moon will appear and break up and fall. The people will scatter in madness. They will hear the trumpet and battle cry of the Destroyer and will seek refuge in the den in the Earth. Terror will eat away their hearts and their courage will flow from them like water from a broken pitcher. They will be eaten up in the flames of wrath and consumed by the breath of the Destroyer.

Thus in the Days of Heavenly Wrath, which have gone, and thus it will be in the Days of Doom when it comes again. The times of its coming and going are known unto the wise. These are the signs and times which shall precede the Destroyer’s return: A hundred and ten generations shall pass into the West and nations will rise and fall. Men will fly in the air as birds and swim in the seas as fishes. Men will talk peace one with another, hypocrisy and deceit shall have their day. Women will be as men and men as women, passion will be a plaything of man. A nation of soothsayers shall rise and fall and their tongue shall be the speech learned. A nation of law givers shall rule the Earth and pass away into nothingness. One worship will pass into the four quarters of the Earth, talking peace and bringing war. A nation of the seas will be greater than any other, but will be as an apple rotten at the core and will not endure. A nation of traders will destroy men with wonders and it shall have its day. Then shall the high strive with the low, the North with the South, the East with the West, and the light with the darkness. Men shall be divided by their races and the children will be born as strangers among them. Brother shall strive with brother and husband with wife. Fathers will no longer instruct their sons and their sons will be wayward. Women will become the common property of men and will no longer be held in regard and respect.

Then men will be ill at ease in their hearts, they will seek they know not what, and uncertainty and doubt will trouble them. They will possess great riches but be poor in spirit. Then will the Heavens tremble and the Earth move, men will quake in fear and while terror walks with them the Heralds of Doom will appear. They will come softly, as thieves to the tombs, men will not know them for what they are, men will be deceived, the hour of the Destroyer is at hand.

In those days men will have the Great Book before them, wisdom will be revealed, the few will be gathered for the stand, it is the hour of trial. The dauntless ones will survive, the stout-hearted will not go down to destruction. Great God of All Ages, alike to all, who sets the trials of man, be merciful to our children in the Days of Doom. Man must suffer to be great, but hasten not his progress unduly. In the great winnowing, be not too harsh on the lesser ones among men. Even the son of a thief has become Your scribe.

The Great Red Dragon is very real. In 1973-1974 elementary school year my 5th grade class was placed into a government pilot program where we were warned about what they theorized was our suns binary twin system passing near the earth and destroying 70=80 percent of the inhabitants of earth. Having been taught Creation Science in 3rd grade when living in a different state and school system I would take what we were taught in the pilot program and compare it to the book of Revelation and it aligned. I had waited over 40 years for the first sign in Heaven, Revelation 12 verse 1 and 2 to be fulfilled September 23rd, 2017. Before the second advent of Christ and the Millennial Reign the earth will as Isaiah said wobble like a drunkard and the nations fall. I have been tracking the incoming system since 2017. The earth is definitely heralding its approach. Here is a 34 second clip regarding the Great Red Dragon aka Second sun.

https://rumble.com/v6r436q-transit-of-mercury-2016-from-slooh-observatories-with-second-sun-aka-the-gr.html

Maranatha!

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Joe Hemstock's avatar

Not one scripture to support your statements, and no one believed that before 1500 including John and Jesus

Have a great day though

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Jessica Powell's avatar

Would you care to describe in more detail the purpose and content of this “Government pilot programme” to which you refer, as we have no way of accurately guessing either, unless you take the trouble actually to inform us.

And would you please cite the author and origin of the so-called GREAT SCROLL to which you ascribe so much authority as to appear to deem it worthy of addition to the biblical canon?

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As it was explained to me when I asked my dad why I had to go to school all year around in 1973-1974 he explained when the government is considering new school curriculums they tend to run a government pilot program to test the curriculum in. We were taught many things under the Nixon Administration. We were taught about hte Terrain theory vs Germ Theory and that the Terrain Theory was more accurate. We studied the history of Grand Solar Minimums one 9 week stint. In another 9 weeks we learned about the astronomers starting with Sir Isaac Newton leading up to the late Carlos Munoz Ferrada regarding the search for Neptune's Perturber and the binary star theory. We were warned about this incoming celestial body that they believed would pass over around 2012. They did not seem to understand its connection to the Revelation and prophecy though. Having been in a different schools systemin 3rd grade I was being taught creation science and how to read the story in the Mazzaroth. The Revelation 12 Great Wonder in Heaven tells a story if you know the meanings of the planets and constellations in the celestial book. Sadly I was relocated before the end of that school year so did not get to learn all I had hoped for but Yah showed me enough to have understanding. As for the Northern Tribes of Israel they were never lost. Those who say they are Jews and are not in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 are Ashkenazi of the lineage of Japheth. Scythians in all the old historical records I have read were the Ashkenazi. In or around 1981, I believe, a friend had challenged my faith in Yah and his son by pulling a book out of his dads private library. IT was the Kolbrin. He did not know I had already been in a government pilot program and had learned things most are unaware of. You could image my surprise when I was reading about the very thing I had been taught about in school years earlier. It is an historical record the Vatican has tried to keep hidden. The events described are real and true. Many of what is described is what we were told would occur in the government pilot program. You do not have to believe any of it if you do not want to but hte earth is about to be destroyed as the Revelation and the scrolls describe. My role is to make sure you were all warned before the event so if you don't believe you will when all described occurs. In 1967 is where my journey began with prophecy and Yah and Yeshua have placed all things before me and given me wisdom. As for the Northern Tribes of Israel they were also known as the Khumry. Spellings change over time and today it is spelled Qumry like Qumran was spelt also Khumran. They are connected. Here is a link for you regarding the Northern tribes of Israel. Much of your history has been hidden like judgment cycles and resets.

https://esotericawakening.com/are-the-welsh-the-lost-ten-tribes-of-israel

In the government pilot program they also taught us about the common law. WE learned many things and were tested for some things. I remember when they were testing us for psychic abilities. I remember going to school during the summer break for the other children and the halls being empty. I remember when I met a young Barry Soetoro in the oddest of happenstance and yes he has declared he is a homosexual since he was 12. He also hate Christians and wants to see them beheaded all because they do not condone his lifestyle. He knew when he was 12 he would be President and a multi Millionaire. It was not a pleasant conversation but I had the closing remarks near the end of it when I warned him about the coming judgment and the incoming system

and his time is running out. I believe that is why they placed him in office as bookends around their believed Passover of the Great Red Dragon aka Destroyer 2012. They never seemed to understand prophecy. Hope this helps you along. Again you do not have to believe it but it is all true. I have been searching for and then tracking the incoming system since 2016 when Yah and Yeshua kept their promise and did not let me miss the first sign in heaven. That was when I was suppose to start warning people to prepare. Have been doing so ever since and you are one less I need to warn so I say thank you.

Here is a video link from 2016 where you can find more links to the incoming system. I will upload more when I have time. As for the ark of the Covenant. It never left Israel and is exactly where Ron Wyatt said it was. He was an answer to one of my prayers with all that he had found. Yah is faithful.

https://rumble.com/v6r436q-transit-of-mercury-2016-from-slooh-observatories-with-second-sun-aka-the-gr.html

Do you have a 6 word story?

https://old.bitchute.com/video/ZPlJwuPIcSgU/

Sadly, I have many.

Maranatha!

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