In Episode 4 of INCITE-FUEL, J.D. Hall and JSlay dive headfirst into one of the most contentious questions facing Christians today: When the Church pursues power, specifically political power…does this pursuit come at the expense of the Great Commission, or is it actually part of it?
NOTE: The full, uncut episode is available exclusively to Premium subscribers (my paid supporters) of JSlayUSA on Substack. Full chapter list below.
We begin by examining Peter Boland’s criticism of Joel Webbon and the Christ Is King Conference, and from there, the conversation takes a hard turn into the future.
What happens when artificial intelligence and automation eliminate vast numbers of human jobs? What happens when technological progress accelerates toward what many call the singularity? If human labor becomes increasingly unnecessary, what happens to the Christian’s current political ideals, when the very playing field on which those ideals were created have shifted.
We don’t stop there.
J.D. and JSlay then wade into one of the most controversial interpretive debates in Genesis: Noah’s prophetic curse, the Table of Nations, and the infamous “Curse of Ham.” What does Genesis actually say? How did later interpreters transform the passage into a racial doctrine? And what, if anything, can legitimately be inferred from the biblical text about the nations descended from Noah?
This is a conversation about Christian power, political engagement, artificial intelligence, race, biblical interpretation, and the future of civilization.
It is also a conversation that refuses to treat these subjects as off-limits, even when we disagree with those on our own team.
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Chapter List
00:00 — Peter Boland, Joel Webbon & the types of Christian Infighting
The Christ Is King Conference controversy, criticism of Webbon, purity spirals, outrage mobs and why Christians so often seek out problems with the people closest to them.
28:35 — Alex Jones, UBI & the Coming Singularity
The Webbon/Alex Jones exchange becomes a much bigger conversation about universal basic income, AI, automation, quantum computing and what happens when technology makes the old economic rules obsolete. 
51:17 — Hitler Comparisons, National Socialism & Christian Politics
The conversation returns to criticism of Webbon and explores political labels, guilt-by-association arguments, Christian political power and what a Christianized society would actually mean.
1:14:46 — Is the Great Commission Really About Evangelism?
This becomes one of the strongest theological portions of the episode: whether Matthew 28 means merely converting individuals or actually discipling nations and teaching them to obey Christ. The argument is developed explicitly around “disciple the nations” beginning around 1:19.
1:37:34 — The Curse of Ham & the Table of Nations
JD lays out his understanding of Genesis 9–10, Ham, Shem, Japheth, Canaan, the Table of Nations and the historical question of whether Noah’s blessings and curse continue through history. 
1:57:01 — Ashkenazi Jews, Japheth & the Question of Origins
The discussion moves specifically into Ashkenaz, European Jewish history, competing claims about Ashkenazi ancestry, migration and how JD connects this back to the Table of Nations.
2:10:57 — Dale Partridge, the Curse of Ham & Where the Line Is
Why is the Curse of Ham controversial? What is Dale Partridge’s position? where JD agrees or disagrees. We close with the broader question of Christianity, Jews and national blessing.
